Gonzales DOJ stooge Goodling fired civil service aide for being gay

She ought to be forced to work

an an aide in an HIV clinic...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 13:38:48 PM CDT

That's not how government service works

The people responsible will be promoted and transferred instead.

History never actually repeats itself -but it rhymes, (Twain)

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by: cybelline1 @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 15:07:46 PM CDT

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Goodling is out of government

but ought to face disbarrment proceedings.

She has immunity for some of her nonsense.

As an attorney credentialled to the appropriate jurisdictions, I would he happy to act as whatever the DC equivalent of QC is for the DC bar.

This case was not, in its entirety and in the end about prejudice.

It was about treason.
It was about the implementation of the Domionist scheme for permanent domination of government clearly discussed on Domionist sites.

It was a lawyer trained by a religious organisation to take control of portions of government doing so in collaboration with other co-religionists.

"Will the parties stand and state your names?"

Maureen Hennessey, for the people, My Lord, I mean Your Honour.

Monica Goodling for the Lord, Your Hounor...

"Miss Hennessey, if you are ready, you may begin your opening statement"

Thank you, Your Honour. Sir, the real complaing party at the bar today, unseen though they may be,are Messers Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, Monroe and others who conceived of and enshrined the system of government of the United States as a Secular Republic. America was to be  free from the threat of religious dominance and the inevitable oppression and despotic tyrranny that proceeds slowly, insidiously and tragically, nearly irreparably from that....

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 17:36:33 PM CDT

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speaking as someone with AIDS

Isn't the disease BAD ENOUGH?
I sure as F*CK don't need some bigotted putrid skank to deal with too.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 23:00:53 PM CDT

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So - what's her consequence?

Is there a criminal recourse? Can the person wrongly fired sue her? Will her law licence be at risk?

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by: Kathleen @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 15:49:52 PM CDT

Answer

Her law license will be at risk.  That is probably all.

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by: tony @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 23:32:27 PM CDT

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and that is assuming a Bar

unsympathetic to her actions.

Other problem: much of this was as an administrator.
Third Problem: She's not been charged.

Final Problem, and one that I hope that She invokes: Her actions were in accordance with her religious beliefs and the religio-political philosophy of her law schoool. Regent and Liberty exist precisely to make possible the enactment of and support of "God's Laws" in civil and criminal codes. They say so overtly. In a Constitutionally Secular State, Chief Justice John Jay notwithstanding(and he spent most of his free time trying to bar Catholics from office) such an attempt is a violation of oaths of office and in a narrow sense, both a conspiracy and treason.

I have a huge problem with "God Governments." As opposed to most of you, I survived one, Ireland under the constitutional "Special Relationship" with the Catholic Church. I've lived life under one, one that excluded women from teaching or any profession once they had children, for instance, one that permitted a parish priest to lock up young women for life it they were at "grave moral risk."

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 06:19:17 AM CDT

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so...

 if Goodling has to take an oath of her office, it's STILL to protect and uphold the mission statement of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, not the selective passages of the Bible.
Which, if she were to be so literal, as a woman...SHE shouldn't have HER job either, according to the Bible.

   "First the came after the trade unionists...."

 What makes her think she'd be safe from religious doctrine if she had her way?

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by: Regan DuCasse @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 17:49:49 PM CDT

Which is precisely why the actual element of the crime

is laden with the deadly scent of treason.

In the end, she's have married a minister or another male lawyer and been a stay at home hero of the putsch that created a permanent right wing Republican majority, which was the discussed intent...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 18:03:28 PM CDT

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How did Bush find such douchey people

do they have a town where there is high levels of masengil in the water supply?

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 22:57:59 PM CDT

He found them at Regent University

an unaccredited and unapproved law school.

Amazing.
Bloody Amazing.

Over a hunderd and twenty lawyers were hired from Regent, a school not approved by the ABA.

With degrees from the Complutense(sister school to Harvard) and The U of London, I had to go back to school  in the US to take bar exams over here.

But then, I like to think that I actualy learned some US law.

They clearly didin't

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 06:09:19 AM CDT

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?

All employees and applicants for employment should receive fair and equitable treatment in all aspects of personnel management without regard to political affiliation, race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, age, or handicapping condition, and with proper regard for their privacy and constitutional rights.  

At least for any decision she made after the date of the Lawrence v. Texas decision, wouldn't "constitutional rights" encompass GLBs?

Kat

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 23:17:36 PM CDT

Nope

It is still perfectly constitutional to fire or not hire gay people.  Lawrence just said you can arrest them.

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by: tony @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 23:23:07 PM CDT

I'm not surprised at all.

I live in a "right to work" state. Which is actually, you know "We have the right to fire you for anything." Which means that if you come out at work, and I mean out as gay, trans, kinky, or minority religion, they will sit on it for a week or two and then proceed to write you up three days for coming in at either 7:57 or 8:01 and having your uniform hat cocked at the wrong angle, and fire you, having done so in the proper legal and unassailable manner. It wasn't because you're queer or a Wiccan, oh, nooooo. It's happened to several of my friends.

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by: Alexandra Lynch @ Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 23:58:06 PM CDT

Starbucks.

It's the popular union-busting maneuver of the moment as well -- make contradictory demands of employees, keep a file of cases where employees fail to fulfill said demands, then sit on it until the employee does something the company disapproves of but which is not legal grounds for firing.

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by: M @ Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 03:14:52 AM CDT

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I thought that the Wobblies

were trying to unionise some of the Starbucks.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 06:21:45 AM CDT

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Have you been watching me?

Last year I was put on probation two quarters in a row. The first time for being 10 minutes late (even though I called and told them I was going to be late) because I had electrical problems at my house, but because I was late I was written up, and reminded we had to be at work no later than 8:30. I spent the next three months keeping a record of when my co-workers came in I was the only one that came in on time (including my boss.)
The next quarter I was put on probation for "Failure to comply with dress code." Because according to a co-worker (not even my boss) that my clothes were "not pressed well enough." Baring in mind that I wear a dress shirt and tie every day, while the one who filed the complaint breaks policy wearing opened toed shoes as does the boss in his golf shirts and khakis.
Because I was on probation I lost the quarterly bonus I would have been entitled to (as the Boss was rewarded for "outstanding quarter" with a trip.) And because I was on probation for 2 quarters (half the year) I lost out on a raise at the end of that year.

One of the joys of terminable at will.

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Jul 29, 2008 at 09:45:31 AM CDT

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