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Don't Ask, Don't Tell supporter Donnelly provides comic relief during House hearing

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 15:43:17 PM EDT


UPDATE: Donnelly receives a big smackdown from The Palm Center re: her use of statistics . It's after the jump.

Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, testified at today's House Armed Services Personnel Subcommittee's hearings on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and if I were on the side of the folks who want to continue the ban on gays and lesbians openly serving, I'd lock her up for the duration. She was literally laughed at during the proceedings, the room erupting at her lunacy, which included visions of rampant "lesbian assaults" and contorted gay sex on submarines if the ban was lifted. But she was ready for her closeup. Look at her ridiculous testimony (courtesy of HRC; Chris Johnson liveblogged it):

3:00 - CJ: Questions from the subcommittee members.  Arkansas Congressman Vic Snyder (D) admonishes Donnelly for unnecessarily bringing up HIV in her testimony and tells her that, ironically, by her logic, she should only want to let lesbians into the military. Loud laughter all around. (Meanwhile, that old woman is stern-faced....)

2:35: CJ - Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness is speaking. There is an audible burst of laughter when Donnelly throws in a "San Francisco left" phrase just for dramatic effect. Another guffaw from the crowd when Donnelly expresses her concern over gay men sharing a "cramped submarine" with other soldiers.

OMG:  There is on older lady in the room who just turned around to the room brimming with youngsters and issued the warning, "Show respect while she speaks!"  She looks right at me when she finishes. WELL OKAY!

The room keeps laughing at Donnelly's outrageous statements. The older woman is obviously losing this fight. "They're just disrespectful people!" she hisses. 

"Equal opportunity is important, but the needs of our military must come first," are Donnelly's closing words. I guess the words from generals and veterans who have actually served in the military don't mean anything to her, huh?

Donnelly, btw, has never served in the military, and admits she has no qualifications or expertise on sexuality. WTF is she doing up there, then? Is this the best the fossils on the Right can do?

Staff Sergeant Eric Alva testified. Here is the text of his remarks. A snippet is below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: Don't Ask, Don't Tell supporter Donnelly provides comic relief during House hearing
Eric Alva, the first American soldier wounded in Iraq:

My military service came to an end on March 21, 2003.  It was the first day of the ground war in Iraq; mine was one of the first battalions in.  Three hours into the invasion, we had stopped to wait for orders.  I went back to the Humvee to retrieve something - to this day I can't remember what - and, as I crossed that dusty patch of desert for the third time that day, I triggered a landmine.

I was thrown through the air, landing 10 or 15 feet away.  The pain was unimaginable.  My fellow marines were rushing to my aid, cutting away my uniform to assess the damage and treat my wounds.  I remember wondering why they weren't removing my right boot - it wasn't until later that I realized it was because that leg was already gone.  

Another landmine detonated, though I couldn't hear it because the first had temporarily deafened me; it wasn't until later that I learned it had taken the leg of my friend and fellow Texan Brian Alaniz, then a medical corpsman in the Navy, as he tried to help me.

When I awoke, groggily, in a hospital tent outside Kuwait City my right leg was gone, my left leg was broken, and my right arm permanently damaged.  I also had the dubious honor of being the first American injured in the war.  I received the Purple Heart, along with visits from the President and First Lady.  I was told I was a hero.

...Even under the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, I was out to a lot of my fellow Marines.  The typical reaction from my straight, often married friends was "so what?" I was the same person, I did my job well, and that's all they cared about.  Today I'm godfather to three of those men's children.

Normally, I was cautious about whom I divulged my secret to - I felt I had to be.  Then one evening, out with some guys from our unit, I let my guard down.  One of the guys commented on some women in the bar; when my response was less than enthusiastic he asked me, jokingly, if I was gay.  "As a matter of fact, I am," I responded.  He swore to keep my secret, but I suppose he thought it was just too good a piece of gossip to pass up.  He was wrong.  No one he told cared.  The response from everyone was the same as it had been from the friends in whom I'd confided: "so what?" I was still Eric, still one of them, still a Marine; I was still trusted.

...Those who support "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" claim that they do so in the interest of unit cohesion.  Well, as a former Marine, I can tell you what it takes to build unit cohesion: trust.  It takes trust in your fellow unit members to have your back and do their job.  And I can also tell you that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" does nothing but undercut that trust, and with it our nation's security.  "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" imposes secrecy and undermines unit cohesion, ousting gays and lesbians at the expense of the military readiness of the United States.  Allowing gay, lesbian and bisexual service members to serve openly will only improve unit cohesion and in turn our military. I urge the members of the subcommittee to rethink this failed policy and thank you for the opportunity to share my story today.  Thank you.

***

UPDATE: Elaine receives a BIG smackdown (h/t Alvin) from The Palm Center:

The Palm Center announced today that a Duke University law review is publishing a critique of a chief Congressional witness who is testifying at today's hearings on the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays in the military. Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a research organization which studies gays in the military at the University of California, Santa Barbara, said the study is to appear in the forthcoming issue of the Duke Journal of Gender Law & Policy. The article, "The Importance of Objective Analysis: A Response to Elaine Donnelly's Constructing the Co-Ed Military," is a reply to a 2007 article by Elaine Donnelly in the same journal. Donnelly, who is president of the Center for Military Readiness, a traditional values interest group with no military or academic affiliation, is one of two witnesses testifying against the right of gays to serve at today's hearings.

      Donnelly's testimony is largely drawn from her 2007 article, also published in the Duke Journal of Gender Law & Policy. The Palm Center study is a response to her article, which, according to Belkin, is riddled with mistakes and misreadings of both Palm Center work and the "don't ask, don't tell" law and policy that governs gay service.

      "It's unclear why Elaine Donnelly has a platform at all on this issue," Belkin said. "She and her organization do no research." Belkin noted, for example, that to bolster her point that the British military has been undermined by allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly, her article cites a single footnote which refers to five newspaper and radio stories, none of which have anything to do with gays in the military.

      In Donnelly's article and her written Congressional testimony, obtained by the Palm Center in advance of the hearings, Donnelly distinguishes between the 1993 Congressional statute forbidding open gays from serving and the "don't ask, don't tell" policy formulated by the Pentagon the same year, charging that the policy is "inconsistent with the law." She argues that the Pentagon failed to legally implement the policy mandated by the Congressional statute, because the Pentagon policy allows gays to serve if closeted, while, she contends, the actual law is a full ban on gay service.

      The Palm Center reply, co-authored by Belkin, two research colleagues at the Palm Center, and a demographer at the UCLA Law School's Williams Institute, shows how Donnelly misreads the law. According to the law review article, she mistakes a "Sense of Congress" contained in the law for the law itself. "The section of 10 U.S.C - 654 that addresses the matter of asking recruits if they are gay or lesbian does not have the force of law, but is contained in a 'Sense of Congress' which is non-binding," says the Palm Center article. "There is no basis from which to conclude that the policy is 'inconsistent with the law,' since the policy does nothing that is forbidden by the law, and there is nothing it fails to do that is mandated by the law." Belkin explained that, "in the absence of any statutory requirement to ask recruits if they are gay, the Pentagon formulated a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy which ended questions about sexual orientation at the time of accession. Whatever you think of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, it is fully consistent with the Congressional statute from 1993."

      Donnelly's article is riddled with other errors, including misidentifying the Palm Center as a Berkeley organization, misreading the evidence on gay service during wartime and misunderstanding the statistical methodology of demographic data on the prevalence of gays in the U.S. military, as well as the research methods used in assessing polling data and the financial costs of the ban on open gays.

      Belkin said the forthcoming Duke law review article details all these mistakes and corrects the record on research on gays in the military. Donnelly's testimony in today's hearings, the first held by Congress on this topic since 1993, repeats many of these errors, he said. "We welcome a serious dialogue on the research on gay service," he said, "but Elaine Donnelly is not addressing this issue in light of the facts and evidence." He suggested that she has adopted a political rhetoric that, without empirical evidence, posits a false tension between the rights of gays and the effectiveness of the military. "Her real concern is forwarding a traditional values agenda that has nothing to do with military readiness." Her article, for instance, suggests that the integration of women into the military is one reason why American troops perpetrated the abuse at Abu Ghraib.

      By contrast, Belkin said, researchers and military officers with experience serving in and studying the armed forces are increasingly viewing the ban on open gays as counterproductive. According to CNN and USA Today, over fifty retired U.S. Generals and Admirals recently signed a statement urging Congress to overturn "don't ask, don't tell." And the Palm Center released a report earlier this month authored by a team of retired flag officers that called for the law to be repealed and "don't ask, don't tell" to end.

John Marble of Stonewall Democrats pointed out the clear choice when it comes to the views of John McCain and Barack Obama:

Senators Barack Obama and John McCain on the Repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

Senators Barack Obama and John McCain take vastly different positions on the Military Readiness Enhancement Act. Barack Obama supports the passage of legislation that would repeal the current ban. John McCain strongly supports the ban and opposes Congress revisiting the issue.

Barack Obama: "Let's repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell and demonstrate that the most effective and professional military in the world is open to all Americans who are ready and willing to serve our country." (2008 LGBT Pride Month Message)

John McCain: "It think it would be a terrific mistake to even reopen the issue. It is working, my friends. The policy is working and I'm convinced that is the way which we can maintain this greatest military. This [current generation of military personnel] is the greatest. Let's not tamper with it." (2008 South Carolina Republican Presidential Debate)
 

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Having been in a submarine
(Canadian, in Baltimore Harbor for a few days on trip north to be decommissioned), I can say 2 things about submarine life from a non-military POV:

1. The food aboard is EXCELLENT. It has to be, for people to endure living in extraordinary cramped quarters like that. You have to go ashore to change your mind!!

2. Anyone who can get ambitious enough to have really fun sex on a sub deserves a medal for agility!!  

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Cannon Fodder, anyone?
Barak Obama only supports lifting the ban because he plans on continuing the war there indefinitely and he'll need cannon fodder.

Obama has the same perspective on Iraq as Bush, the Clintons and McCain. It's a little lie called 'phased withdrawal and it means they intend to stay until they get that oil. That's why it's unprincipled to support him.

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


Kudos to
Pennsylvania Congressman Patrick Murph.  

Excellent job today Sir and Thank You for your service.

Besser ein ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne ende


my parents are very proud to have voted for Murphy
and I'm very glad they did

[ Parent ]
A Scathing review of Elaine Donnelly
"It's unclear why Elaine Donnelly has a platform at all on this issue," Belkin said. "She and her organization do no research." Belkin noted, for example, that to bolster her point that the British military has been undermined by allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly, her article cites a single footnote which refers to five newspaper and radio stories, none of which have anything to do with gays in the military.

http://newswire.ascribe.org/cg...

Besser ein ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne ende


Her Majesty's Government may
end up demanding an apology from Ms Donnelly, which would be something to savor....

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

[ Parent ]
Weakness of the Military?
What are people like Donnelly really saying about the military? These big, strong, allegedly highly-trained soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines are so weak, so pathetically unable to protect themselves from an "attack" by a mere faggot? Or are they so completely emotionally fragile that they cannot even handle a fag looking at them in the shower? Please.

Supporting DADT or, even worse, supporting the complete ban on LGBT military members - as Donnelly does - means you believe all members of the military are incapable, incomptetent and weak.

Way to support the troops Elaine.


my current Facebook status
"Pam thinks Elaine Donnelly probably needs to get laid and stop worrying about gays in the military."

I don't know Pam
Donnelly looks like my 3rd Grade teacher.  And I hated my 3rd grade teacher.  She was a mean, bitter old lady.  In the eight grade I learned she had got caught with Principal in a compromising situation.  Come to find out, she got caught in full leather complete with whip.  Me'thinks Mrs. Donnelly does protest to much.

[ Parent ]
my thoughts exactly.
ms donnelly is getting plenty...plenty that she doesn't want anyone knowing anything about.  thus the "hey, look over there!" routine.  not to mention, it's a paycheck.  those sexually repressed rubes just keep sending in the cash.  wouldn't it be ungracious of her not to accept it?  keeps her in hair dye at least, by the looks of it.

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[ Parent ]
Don't forget
Elaine and the CMR oppose women in combat...and co-ed cohabitation in the military.  How 1901 are her views...

even chris shays
gets kudos for today.

i watched that hearing transfixed by the dignity of alva and darrah.  they made me very proud.  several times i even cried.


I was actually proud of Chris Shays
Over on Carpetbagger end of day open thread I gave him my hero of the day award. I loved his smackdown on that shrill ignoramus. And I too cried - when Joe Sestak had his time, I sat at my desk and tried not to make any noise as the tears came. (I caught the CSPAN 3 webcast.)

Elaine Donnelly has never served in the military, and chairs an anti-gay, anti-woman organization formed in 1993 with the express purpose of undercutting equal opportunity in the armed forces. What is this ignorant dipstick doing testifying in front of Congress? By those standards, my dog is more qualified to testify, seeing as she at least has experience living with a gay servicemember.

She had the nerve to say that allowing open gays to serve would cripple Tricare (military health care) due to the skyrocketing HIV rates. Amazing. Apparently she doesn't know that there are already procedures in place to retain and treat HIV positive service members. Then she had the gall to say that she is just trying to make the armed forces a safer place for women. This from the lobbyist who has tried since 1993 to change policy to not allow women to serve at all.

This impotent harpy needs to go the way of Falwell.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


[ Parent ]
Wow, Donnelly had the nerve to argue with Rep. Murphy.
But I guess we already know she's from the School of Fist Sandwiches, not the School of Logical Debate.

Thank you Rep. Murphy for your work today.  It means a lot to me to see a freshman legislator willing to take a principled stand like that on anything having to do with LGBT people.  Even though the repeal of DADT is supported overwhelmingly by public opinion, too few in Congress are willing to be in the spot light working for the repeal.  Very impressive.  I hope others follow your lead.

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She got confused.
She seems to think that the Congress of the United States operates under the same level of professionalism and debate as Fox.  She thinks that she's on a soap box, not giving actual information.  Dippy bitch.

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
there are people in the military
that don't like (and/or are uncomfortable) being around people of other races and religions, shall we limit service to to White Christian men?

yes, let's!
and don't forget that some of those white christian men, whether they be catholic or protestant, despise the branch of christianity they do not subscribe to.  which shall be the chosen, and which shall be lumped together with we human trash?  maybe they can sort it out be seeing who can last longest wearing a gen-u-wine crown of thorns.  or better yet, perhaps they can have a stone casting contest.  release the lions and pass the wine!  finally, a reality show i can get interested in!

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[ Parent ]
According to Elaine Donnelly
We should. That box of hair has been trying to get women and non-christians declared ineligible for military service since 1993 when she founded her little tea party.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

[ Parent ]
Media Catch-Up?
A Politico.com article said that about 73% of servicepeople in Iraq and Afghanistan have no problem serving with open gays and lesbians, according to a 2006 survey.  Apparently, HBO hasn't absorbed this, as their current miniseries, Generation Kill, has dialog peppered with "f----t" this and "f----t" that.  A couple of the leading actors are gay iconic, yet they spew all of this hate.  I am left wondering why?  

Yes, I know it is based upon the journalistic experiences of an "embedded" reporter and that it deals with the movement of troops from Kuwait to Iraq in the early days of the war, but has the attitude of the Marines changed so much in the three years separating the invasion from the survey?

To judge by the excellent PBS series, Carrier, the survey is dead on.  Mixing interviews with both officers and servicepeople, the documentary, co-produced by Mel Gibson, incidentally, depicts one young sailor admitting he has a fondness for a subordinant whom we later see with him in several scenes, and they look and act like gay men to me.  All the personnel know that some are gay but say it's no big deal to them.  I wonder why HBO doesn't show some people like this.  

Against stupidity, even the angels fight in vain. --Schiller


CMR is Tiny!
The high-sounding Center for Military Readiness has revenues of about $300,000 per year. I noticed that Phylis Schaffly is on the Board. Elaine pulls about $50k/year as salary.

My corner deli has far more receipts than Donnelly-do. Funny how Spiro the deli owner never has the opportunity to testify before Congress.

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

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Elaine Donnelly, demostrates what a debate or dicussion would ...
...be like by any of the christian right wackos and a sane person.  The Peter, Bam Bam, Amy Contrada, Daddy D, and the rest would be the same way.

 Avoid the actual question and drift into la-la-bible-land-of-make-believe-bareing-false-witness.

 

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


So she lost the game; definitively
Another straw women torn to piece by the slightest breeze.

Anyone else hear that tremendous...
sucking noise?  That would be the vacuousness of Donnelly's testimony.  Speaking from experience, I can say that what is of primary importance in a combat unit is someone's proficiency at their job, not their orientation.  When you know that your life could depend on how well someone does their job, it tends to put things in perspective.  I cannot believe that Donnelly would rather have straight gang bangers serving in our military.  Good thinking Elaine!  Let's give gang members access to explosives and automatic weapons along with training in military tactics.  Yes, let's continue to lower enlistment standards rather than allow HIGHLY QUALIFIED gays and lesbians to serve openly.  Well at least Murphy exposed her for all to see in a very public forum. Nice work!  

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