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New Maine Poll: All Tied at 48-48!

by: Louise

Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 11:30:00 AM EDT


The latest poll numbers regarding Maine's Question 1 were just released- and it's just as close as as it  can be:


Maine split on gay marriage question

Raleigh, N.C. - Two weeks out from election day Maine voters are divided right downthe middle when it comes to whether they will reject the state's law allowing same sex couples to marry.

48% say they will vote to over turn the law while 48% say they will vote to keep it with only 4% of the electorate still undecided.

Opinion on the issue predictably breaks heavily along party lines. 74% of Republicans are planning to vote yes while only 25% of Democrats are. Independents may end up deciding which way it goes- presently 50% of them support rejecting the law with 44% in opposition.

Older voters are strongest in their support of cutting off gay marriage. 54% are in support with 40% opposed. Senior citizens can often dominate the electorate in low turnout elections so the ultimate fate of this measure may lie in how many younger people get out to the polls and vote.

There is a strong gender gap on the issue with 53% of men but only 43% of women wanting to reject the law. It's also interesting to note that while white voters oppose undoing the law by a thin 47-45 margin, nonwhite voters in the state support rejection by a 55-35 margin, creating the overall tie.

"The fate of Question 1 is going to be decided by which side does a better job of mobilizing their supporters to get out and vote," said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. "Voters in the state know where they stand on the issue and now it's just an issue of who shows up."

PPP surveyed 1,130 likely voters from October 16th to 19th. The survey's margin of error is +/-2.9%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

Complete results are attached and can be found at www.publicpolicypolling.com.

So there we have it- It's Time To "Get Out The Vote!!!"

Louise :: New Maine Poll: All Tied at 48-48!
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Good Luck
It sounds like it is going to be a tight election

Thanks for sharing the Public Policy Polling numbers.  They are usually pretty accurate in my experience.

They'll be polling the Chapel Hill mayoral race that I did a write up for in the link below sometime next week.  We may have our first ever gay mayor in Chapel Hill in 2 weeks.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...


Polls showing an even divide does help Maine No on 1 not being falsely over confident
It means our get out our voters essential because each one matters. I lived in a gay ghetto neighborhood in MPLS which also had affluent lake front senior home owners. LGBTs in that district when motivated could rival and overwhelm senior voter turnout. We could do this even in off year elections and caucuses.
The intensity and momentum will be key to motivating No on 1 voters to show up....rain,, sleet, or snow.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


getting students and young single women to the polls would be a good focus
Young single women and youth voters have been difficult to get out in other elections, but when they turn out they can change everything. They also are the most likely to have LGBT friends and family members, and those that know us... vote for us TWICE as much.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


hmmm, and just read this poll
Pan Atantic had these numbers:

New poll: Q1:
NO: 51.8%,
Yes: 42.9%

http://www.dirigoblue.com/show...

I like their poll better. But the only one that matters is taken on Election day.


Either one could be correct...
Or the truth may lie somewhere in between. But ultimately, what matters most IS Election Day. That's why we can't be overconfident or take it easy.

Act on Principles and make equality happen.  

[ Parent ]
PPP Poll is fishy
1) It's an automated poll which are notoriously inaccurate.

2) They only polled landlines -- without any mention of correcting for cell phone only voters (who are younger and generally more liberal.

3) DEMOs!!: This poll has an 18 - 29 sample of 10%, in 2008 the 18 - 29 vote was 17% of the electorate -- other aage groups are similarly skewed with older voters very much overweighted.

4) Results seem odd -- the 18 -29 demo only favors marriage equality by 2 percentage points?   Seriously?  That contradicts every other Maine poll and every national poll.


[ Parent ]
also......
Pan Atlantic is based in Maine, PPP is in North Carolina -- who do you think has a better handle on the Maine electorate?

[ Parent ]
Good analysis
Thanks

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I respectfully disagree: PPP is probably better
Just a few commments on why I think this poll is pretty decent:
1. Sample size:  Over 1100 people, vs about 500.  That's double the size.
2. Past history:  PPP has been extremely close in all of its previous polling (check fivethirtyeight.com)
3. Automated polls (sadly) was much better for polling gay marriage than live calls.  Check of the Prop 8 results.  Field Poll and other live pollers thought voters would uphold gay marriage, the automated polls did not. Why? Perhaps people felt they needed to give the "P.C. answer" to a person, but not to a machine.
4.  Pan Atlantic doesn't have the best track record, even for it being a at-home agency.  (Plus it's 2 weeks old, perhaps this PPP survey may reflect more recent trends.)

Plus, PPP isn't some secretive conservative polling company.  They are very upfront about their liberal leanings.

Your point #4 is very valid:  what's up with the youngens only favoring marriage equality by 2% points?

And we all agree: this poll is a kick in the pants for people to get moving and not take anything for granted!


[ Parent ]
People lie to pollsters
for fear of being perceived as bigoted. SUSA polls on Prop 8 accurately showed a statistical dead heat while "traditional" polling predicted we would win by double digits. Well, we all know how it turned out in the end.

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This is my sense of it
That this baby is split down the middle and that we could be in for a loooooooooong Election Night here. Kinda like Florida 2000!

Hey kev
FL 2000 with a happy ending for a change.
I'll be up all night watching returns if I need too.
Take care

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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Hey there Kev, I didn't know you were still up there.


Be better, not bitter!

[ Parent ]
I'll be here until the day after election day.


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No problem
And I love your state.

Not to make a quasi-racial joke (but...well, I am)...

The Mainers that I've met are aghast that I put sugar in my grits! Now I've had black people tell me this but never white people...lol...I guess there must be something wrong with putting sugar in my grits!

I felt so at home when I heard that Mainers find my sugar-in-the-grits habit of mine appalling

It's also interesting that I have seen the Canadian flag an awful lot. Growing up in Detroit, I have always felt friendly with our Canadian neighbors too (I have known both the American and Canadian national anthems since I was a kid) but you don't find the Canadian flag being flown much in Michigan (that may not be true for the Upper Penisula, though!)


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That's true, re:Canada
Having grown up here, left and then come back, I forgot that Maine's closeness with Canada is just instinctive for us here.

And yes, the flags are everywhere! :)

My grandmother's parents/families were both from New Brunswick and Gram grew up about 5 minute's away from the ME/NB border. I took a day trip to do genealogy up there one day and had a lovely long chat with the lone border patrol agent (back in 2005, so very easy-going with getting across!).  

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We used to go across the Detroit River
to Windsor on a pretty regular basis as my Mom preferred the bingos in Canada. In fact, the only way I would consider moving back into the Detroit area is if I moved to Windsor. I have a lot of short and fond memories of my weekly Canadian visits.

[ Parent ]
The take away message for me is...
if you are a No on 1 supporter, and you are here in Maine, you need to vote NOW. Early voting is what is going to win this election for us. DO NOT wait until Election Day. Go to your town/city hall and vote TODAY. My election day was October 9th. It's a good feeling to know my vote is in the box and has been recorded.

L


I'm not gonna bitch...
But only 10% 18-29 demo? At 47-45? Don't buy that. But SFMM will boast how they went up by 6% and we went down 3% in 4 days because their gay sex ad is working so well.

About the automated part though, PPP did say that automated polls make people less likely to lie about their choices(telling someone they'll vote no to sound politically correct, but in reality voting yes). I dunno. They said they'll sneak in another poll before election day so expect another one next week or so.


:(
nonwhite voters in the state support rejection by a 55-35 margin, creating the overall tie.

I feel the need to do something. I mean, it's only 2% of the total vote but...:(


Why is this shocking?
Look what happened in California.  Support for gay marriage does not poll well with nonwhites.  

[ Parent ]
although the way I read it...
it means they are favoring maintaining the law. Voting No on 1 (rejecting the people's veto) would keep the law in place (not repeal it) that was passed in May.

See why voters up here are confused? That's why I am spending many, many hours on the phone and will be doing so again this evening.

L


[ Parent ]
well, we truthfully don't no how they are reading iit
when I read that phrase, even I got a little confused as to what it's saying.

[ Parent ]
it's not shocking at all
I'm lamenting...and I want to do something but i'm in the bubble of the campaign right now....I think I can make a difference in this regard but...

I'm just at a loss...every vote does count...


[ Parent ]
Here's something to cheer you
It made me laugh someone (All4Me)at HuffPo quoted a post of mine, it's about LGBTs talking about visiting ME and planning their weddings there.
"
-- Talk about how you CAN'T WAIT to come to Maine for vacation, to plan your wedding, to have your dream destination wedding and honeymoon -- and you would be right, because Maine is fabulous! Perfect beaches, quaint seaside villages, windjammer cruises, whale watching, incredible mountains, snuggling by a roaring fire, top-flight restaurants "

and

"Most Mainers are not very ideological (see Chellie Pingree on Stephen Colbert), we don't want people shouting at us what we should do. We are more worried about our economy than most other things.

(BoyinBOYCOTT: "You had me at -- LOBSTER" -- Now you're talking!)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
every vote counts
go to college campuses and play Heather Small :)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Somebody please explain
SFMM has raised less money, has less field opperatives, and has aired less commercials yet the poll is this close?

WTF    


PPP
is a well regarded polling firm here in NC and nationwide. And they lean Democratic. Of course no poll is going to be fully accurate. All about turnout in the end and we know our opponents excel at busing their hardcore conservative churchgoers to the polls.

We have a harder task of reminding college kids and other young adults to vote. The other side is more dedicated, that's just the truth.


Chuck, question for you
@ChuckinSeattle:  Thank you for your excellent insights.  Question for you:  Is there a bright side to the fact that a telephone poll is more accurate?  I am thinking of the Bradley effect that always shows up in gay marriage polls.  If the respondents aren't dealing with a live person, it stands to reason they would be more willing to give an honest answer.  Thus, the 5% undecided might really be undecided and we might count on getting some slice of them.

IMO, the surprising number here is that 74% of Republicans will vote yes.  This seems very lopsided for Maine Republicans.  It is more what you would expect to see in the Midwest or non-deep South.  That number is almost exactly what we saw in a September poll and this poll would suggest that it hasn't move one iota.

I think it is that GOP number that accounts for the difference b/t this poll and the Sept. poll on the one hand, and the Democracy Corp poll and the SMS Atlantic poll on the other.


74% of Republicans will vote yes
Exactly why civil rights should not be put to public vote.  Until we see some action at the Federal level we will be constantly putting out state fires.

[ Parent ]
Thoughts
Short answer:  I don't have good answers, just a few random thoughts.

Regarding the GOP make up:  I don't know much about Maine and who has stayed in the GOP and who has left and who's liberal, who's conservative, and who's moderate.

Regarding a "gay Bradley effect":  I think you're right.  Except the fact that the undecided number is just so small that if they split 50/50, it will still be about turnout.  

PPP didn't ask for "strongly leaning" or "somewhat leaning" so we don't know how people really feel.

We'll know more soon:
Daily Kos is polling Maine later this week.
PPP said they'd poll Maine again before the election.  

I think everyone agrees: turnout, turnout, turnout!  


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